Archive for December, 2009

Glock successfully sued over malfunctioning pistol

Chris purchased a Glock 36 back in June 2008. After experiencing many failure-to-extract malfunctions, he sent it back to Glock to be fixed.

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Chris's G36 malfunctions.

He got the pistol back and again it had problems. He then sent it back a second time. Six months later Glock returns his pistol and a letter stating it "meets factory specs". The problems persistent so he filed a small claims suit the company succeeded in winning.

Both parties agreed to mediation, but were unable to come to a settlement.

The case was presented in front of the judge. The pictures to the left and the letters to Glock were presented. The courtroom did not have a TV so we did not view the video.

The judge ruled in favor of the plaintiff on November 24th for a portion of the damages.

Glock should have dealt with the situation much better. Chris is still a Glock fan and he told me that he plans on purchasing a Gen4 Glock in the future.

You can read about Chris's experience on his website.

 

An M4 takes 3.5 hours to manufacture

A journalist from the Malaysian newspaper Malay Mail was shown around the Colt's West Hartford factory ...

New machines were still being installed at the 26,687-square metre plant as The Malay Mail was shown around by Colt Defence executive vicepresident James R. Battaglini.

It takes 3 1/2 hours to complete a single M4 and the plant can churn out 900 a day with options for more when required.

The finished product then go below the plant for the test-firing process to ensure it performed to specifications.

Colt boasts a record of every gun made so that if it does not perform well, the company can determine if it is made to specs.

You may be thinking what a Malaysian newspaper is doing in West Hartford, Connecticut? Back in 2007 Malaysia announced plans** to switch away from the Steyr AUG and adopt the M4.

The Malay Mail also has a photo of some rare Colt pistols. Daniel Watters told me ...

there is one interesting picture showing a couple of rare Colt prototype pistols. These include the SSP and their submission for SOCOM's OHWS competition. I don't have a definitive name for the pistol above the OHWS, but I believe it was going to used as the platform for their "Smart Pistol". It certainly doesn't match any AA2000 variant that I remember.

[ Many thanks to Daniel E. Watters for sending me the link. ]

 

Congressmen quiz SecDef on M4

Earlier this month Congressmen Ike Skelton and Solomon Ortiz sent a letter to the Secretary of Defense and the Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs. In the letter they ask what is being done about the M4 since the Battle of Wanat report. They subtly point out that some Special Forces do not use the M4.

The full letter can be view after the jump.

[ Many thanks to False for emailing me the letter. ]

 

Magpul AFG Review

[ I am pleased to present this review of the new Magpul AFG (Angled ForeGrip). The review was written by Isaac. ]

Let me preface this review by first establishing that anything to do with how your body interfaces with a weapon system will not be a review that’s binary in nature. There is no universal ‘this works’ or ‘this does not work’ as empirical facts on these types of products. What feels good to one person feels bad to another.

There’s been a rapid transition from vertical grips being used in the broom-handle sense, i.e hands fully around the column, and thus providing very little stability over the center axis of the rifle. So as the hand moves higher up along the line of the bore (in terms of grip) we’ve found that we need less tall of vertical grips to accomplish that need. A further variation on that is the idea of a hand-stop, which whittles away any unnecessary design to provide only a reference point for the hand to exert rearward pressure on.

The hand-stop concept is fantastic if you run a high tang grip. For me as a shooter I run my reaction side hand (or primary if working transitions) high, to the point where my knuckles are on top of the rail. The one issue that has been raised is the supination to the shooter’s wrist, or the over-extension caused by a hard 90-degree cant on the grip; the AFG works to solve this by using an angled gripping surface for the shooter.

Magpul AFG on Knights 11.5" SBR (Note angle of the wrist in relation to the AFG)

This review was compiled from the experiences of 3 shooters, myself, and two other experienced AR shooters who spent about 100+ rounds on each of my guns (11.5 Costa-style SBR, which is fitting for this test, and my KAC SR-15). Obviously the build quality is fantastic, it’s an affordably made, and well thought out product in terms of execution. The grip comes with two finger groove inserts, one in the A2 style nub, and one that’s smooth. I found for my hands the A2 groove interfered with my smaller hands, and I had to switch out to the flat profile insert (swappable within 1-2 minutes with only removing two screws to separate the AFG in half). The AFG mounts to the rail using a flat head screw and nut, to lock it in to the rail. The AFG takes up approximately the entire length of a standard 7” carbine rail. However you can position it further forward on the rail depending on what feels best for the shooter.

Knights Armament SR-15

So how does it feel? Well…I’d say it’s a mixed bag. My KAC SBR uses a KAC hand-stop, and the longer SR-15 uses a non-QD Tango Down Stubby vertical grip. Each gun has it’s own unique setup as I run two completely different light/laser rigs on each. So lets start with the SR-15 first. On the Knights SR-15 the combination of Surefire Scout, AN/PEQ-15, and Magpul AFG did not feel good for me at all. The previous setup (and keep in mind this is a combination of interactions on different parts) which used the TD Stubby allowed me to slightly extend my left thumb forward to activate the light, and when using the PEQ (pressure pad is directly under the PEQ-15, placed in between the left and top rail) all I have to do is a slight wrist rotation to hit the pressure switch. When the AFG is in place it’s a much more pronounced move to hit the light. And with the PEQ-15 instead of rotating my hand back a few degrees to allow my thumb access to the pad I now have to extend my whole hand out since it’s already canted. Simply put it’s comfortable when shooting, but it’s uncomfortable when trying to work with the light and laser. The AFG also interferes with rail-mounted accessories like Larue mounts. The AFG cannot slide next to them without the user removing part of the AFG with a Dremel. This isn’t a big issue and is user-solvable quickly, but it’s still an issue worth pointing out. Since the review I’ve switched back to the Stubby, and I’ll get back to that in my conclusions.

Magpul AFG used in combination light and laser (Surefire Scout, and Insight Technology AN/PEQ-15)

On the SBR the results were notably better. Because I run my Surefire at the 1 o’clock position this allowed me to better high grip on the AFG, and the results were comfortable, though not perfect. The 11.5” SBR also provides an interesting test bed. As my rifle is very similar to Chris Costa’s (I run a different light setup however) so it’s a situation where my rifle matches up very closely to those in the marketing material. So taking that in to account the biggest differences become the difference in body mechanics between the two shooters.

Magpul AFG on Knights 11.5" SBR

To summarize how the AFG feels, and all the shooters independently confirmed this after our demo (we all came to the same results separately) is that the AFG can be equated to a slippage in physical purchase (grip, not money). I equate it to sitting on your back, feet against the wall, as you push out with your feet you have a solid action/re-action to what you’re pushing against. The AFG feels more like pushing against an angled surface, in that the force is somewhat translated but the force also wants to go up and out. So while it accomplishes the job of pulling back it feels less positive in terms grip. The tango down grip provides a solid 90-degree point of reference for my hands and the hands of the shooters who demoed the AFG (and I can keep an extra 123A battery in the stubby). The same can be said of the KAC hand-stop. I will admit I like the AFG just a tiny bit more over the KAC hand-stop, which is why I’ll continue to use the AFG going forward. However I’ve found that the AFG for me at least was not the right choice for my longer SR-15. I understand the mentality behind the AFG, and I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s a solution searching for a problem. As I said earlier this is not going to be a binary review, this is however going to be a binary product. You will either love it or hate it. My response to it on it being announced was very mixed bag, my response to it in use is still the same. The human body is absolutely unique among individuals; ergonomics is always about creating a compromise. It’s about making what feels good to the largest percentage of individuals. I’m in the percentage that just barely considers it an improvement.

However at 35 dollars it’s too cheap not to try out for yourself, make these decisions after some range time, and see how it works for yourself. I do want to thank Magpul for allowing me to try one of these out for free, and come to these conclusions myself as impartially as possible.

 

HERA 1911 Carbine Kit

HERA ARMS, makers of the Glock Carbine Kit, have turned their sights on the M1911 pistol. The Colt Pistol Extension (CPE) turns any mil-sepc 1911 into a .45 carbine.

Installation is simple. All that is involved is removing the grip panels and attaching the CPE in their place.

A stock adapter is available which allows AR-15 stocks to be attached.

In the United States this kit could be legally installed on any 1911 without violating BAFTE rules, as long as no stock or foregrip is attached. As soon as a stock or a foregrip is added, the gun must be registered with the BATFE.

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The kit is featured in the current issue of DWJ magazine.

I do not know of any US distributors, but I am sure this will be picked up by US importers soon.

UPDATE: Video of it being used. Thanks to Gutao for the link.

UPDATE: Sven just told me that the 1911 used with the kit needs to be mil-spec. The DWJ magazine reported problems with non-mil-spec sights interfering with the kit.

[ Many thanks to Sven (Defense and Freedom) for emailing me the the info. ]

 

The Firearm Blog’s new official Facebook fan page!

All you Facebook addicts can now rest easy: The Firearm Blog is now on Facebook! Links to new blog posts are automatically posted to the "Wall", thereby ensuring you do not miss a post!

If you are a Facebook user and a fan of the blog, I urge you to "Become a Fan".

Congrats to Mike for being our first Facebook fan!

The beautiful profile photo is of Kyle's Les Baer Concept VII sitting beside Winchester Black Talon cartridges.

 

Glock Gen-4 Pricing: Dealer, LEO and MSRP

Dealer Pricing

Dealer and MSRP. Thanks to Brian for the info.

Traction Control, a gun blogger and dealer. has the retail pricing on his website:

Model Code Price
Glock 17 Gen 4 9MM 4.49" Polymer Matte 10Rd 3 Mags Fired Case Adjustable Sights - GLOCK 17 GEN4 9MM AS 10RD - Out of Stock - GLPG1750101 $568.99
Glock 17 Gen 4 9MM 4.49" Polymer Matte 10Rd 3 Mags Fired Case Fixed Sights - GLOCK 17 GEN4 9MM FS 10RD - Out of Stock - GLPG1750201 $546.99
Glock 17 Gen 4 9MM 4.49" Polymer Matte 17Rd 3 Mags Fired Case Adjustable Sights - GLOCK 17 GEN4 9MM AS 17RD - Out of Stock - GLPG1750103 $568.99
Glock 17 Gen 4 9MM 4.49" Polymer Matte 17Rd 3 Mags Fired Case Fixed Sights - GLOCK 17 GEN4 9MM FS 17RD - Out of Stock - GLPG1750203 $546.99
Glock 17 Gen 4 9MM 4.49" Polymer Matte 17Rd 3 Mags Fired Case Glock Night Sights - GLOCK 17 GEN4 9MM GNS 17RD - Out of Stock - GLPG1750703 $604.99
Glock 17 Gen 4 9MM 4.49" Polymer Matte 17Rd 3 Mags Fired Case Glock Night Sights - GLOCK 17 GEN4 9MM GNS 10RD - Out of Stock - GLPG1750701 $604.99
Glock 22 Gen 4 40 S&W 4.49" Polymer Matte 10Rd 3 Mags Fired Case Adjustable Sights - GLOCK 22 GEN4 40SW AS 10RD - Out of Stock - GLPG2250101 $568.99
Glock 22 Gen 4 40 S&W 4.49" Polymer Matte 10Rd 3 Mags Fired Case Fixed Sights - GLOCK 22 GEN4 40SW FS 10RD - Out of Stock - GLPG2250201 $546.99
Glock 22 Gen 4 40 S&W 4.49" Polymer Matte 10Rd 3 Mags Fired Case Glock Night Sights - GLOCK 22 GEN4 40SW GNS 10RD - Out of Stock - GLPG2250701 $604.99
Glock 22 Gen 4 40 S&W 4.49" Polymer Matte 15Rd 3 Mags Fired Case Adjustable Sights - GLOCK 22 GEN4 40SW AS 15RD - Out of Stock - GLPG2250103 $568.99
Glock 22 Gen 4 40 S&W 4.49" Polymer Matte 15Rd 3 Mags Fired Case Fixed Sights - GLOCK 22 GEN4 40SW FS 15RD - Out of Stock - GLPG2250203 $546.99
Glock 22 Gen 4 40 S&W 4.49" Polymer Matte 15Rd 3 Mags Fired Case Glock Night Sights - GLOCK 22 GEN4 40SW GNS 15RD - Out of Stock - GLPG2250703 $604.99



Mike (Everyday No Day Off) spotted the Law Enforcement Pricing at TheHighRoad.org Forum ...

[ Many thanks to the readers who emailed me pricing information. ]

 

Ammo Discount

We just received an ammo discount code from SmokeWagonGear. This discount code will give you 10% off your next order. It must be used by 12/31/09.

Get this ammo discount code at the Online Guns Hot Deals page.

- Greg

 

Remington 870 shotgun 10,000,000th commemorative edition

The above shotgun is currently being auctioned at Guns America.

This year, the Remington Arms Company stands honored to roll out the 10,000,000th Model 870 shotgun, and would like to thank the millions of shooters and hunters, and great men and women who serve our country in military and law enforcement for making this proud moment possible. For the past 51+ years, you and the industry we serve have helped make the Model 870 the most trusted shotgun ever produced.

You can register to win one of ten commemorative edition shotguns over at Remington's "10,000,000" website.

 

Confirmed: Glock 17 and 22 will be first Gen-4

Last week I blogged ...

I have also heard from a trustworthy source (I cannot reveal the source) that the Gen-4 G17 and G22 models

This is now doubly confirmed. RSR Group, a firearm distributor, has listed the Glock 17 and 22 GEN4 on their website.

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Who has login access to the RSR Group website? If you do, please see if pricing information is available.

[ Many thanks to the reader who emailed me the info. ]